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Nathan, you are right with your focus on the archer! A lot of what you say feels like vindication 😊 Nathan, I think very few people have addressed this on a theoretical, design, and implementation level. I hope more people pay attention. Long time ago when I tried to address the issues you raised I had a hard time. I would have to check, but Mesmer(C-UAS system I co-invented circa 2007) was designed to go after the target directly or, with most drones, the controller/Archer. If I recall correctly, the initial approach detected the signal between the device and controller by using various methods and then attacked, mainly using protocol manipulation, to subvert the device. In some cases, we got the controller to give an estimated location or location from the controller's phone. We developed almost all of our approaches to go after the controller, but we still had issues with the line of site.

As you write about locating your target, we had a hard time with this, We did have a perfect, undeployed solution similar to yours. We developed a few related patents that solved some of the issues of finding control and support systems for drones. I think this patent focuses just on the relay but worked well for our purposes, Airborne relays in cooperative-mimo systems: https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3328733A4/en, was the direction we used for finding the controllers. We did not focus on hard kills; we did more cyber for mitigation and exploitation. There are a lot of problems in this space, as you point out, but it is necessary and has to move on to other forms of dealing with controllers, such as on the ground, in a vehicle, in a drone managing drones, and so on. Also, there is a need to deal with the controller when it’s an AI, or it’s the device's autonomous system. That’s what worries me and what my current research is all about.

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